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Dear Anon,

1. Every seasons lasts for three months. And the third month of every season, is considered the earth element.

2. What this means is that:-

Spring comes, Spring dies (earth becomes strong)
Summer comes, Summer dies (earth becomes strong)
Autumn comes, Autumn dies (earth becomes strong)
Winter comes, Winter dies (earth becomes strong)

3. Thus both authors are not wrong to say
what you had mentioned.

4. However, in a Ba Zi or Pillars of destiny, the Year, Month, Day, Time, House of Life and House of Conception are looked at. (Where each pillar e.g. Year, month etc... has each a heavenly stem and earthly branch.

5. These elements are looked at in relation to the day of birth pillar. For example, if the day pillar has earth element. The free report by default only provides the birth element and default the strength to weak.

6. Attached, please find example 1: A person who is considered as a weak earth person.

7. The Ba Zi computation takes care of which season, earth is strongest or weakest as this will affect the element at the time you were born.

Therefore, the report has taken into consideration many of the factors i.e. what is your season of birth, any clash, or combinations of your elements.

8. Many of us, may not be aware but, many practitioners fall short of fully analysing the birth chart of a person.

For example, in this attached sample, one will see that some FS practitioners may mistaken the person born in that date to be a `strong earth' person.

Here is how they could easily have mistaken the person to be strong. And this is an actual case where one practitioner had got it wrong as they not done sufficient work.

The mistake has arisen to consider the person as strong earth element:-

Most of the normal ba zi analysis will only consider the Year, Month, Day & Hour of Birth. If you consider only that, you can see from the example 1.

The original elements in the chart will be as follows:-

2 Metal
3 Earth
1 Wood
2 Fire
0 Water

This is assuming no combinations was considered and the House of Life and House of Conception was not taken into account.

In the above, you can see that being a Earth person, he has 3 earth, plus 2 fire whichi produces it. This makes his favourable elements to be 5 out of 8 elements. Which is already a clear indication that he is likely to be a Strong Earth person (even if we do not yet consider the seasons of birth influence).

However, if you consider the Combination which occur in Hour or Day Earthly Branch wei and Year Earthly Branch wu. This is a combination that will occur and because of the favourable conditions it will combine to change the original element from wei-wu (earth-fire) to Wood element. This change reduces the two favourable elements earth and fire and change it to 2 unfavourable element wood which destroy Earth.

2 Metal
2 Earth
3 Wood
1 Fire
0 Water

Thus, if you consider the combinations that resulted, the final element summary would be different and thus, making it a weaker Earth than originally determined.

Similiarly, because now the House of Life and House of Conception was considered, there will be further changes to the element summary which affects whether a person is weak or strong.

All the analysis done in the computerised version takes into account every possible Clash,Harm,punishment & self punishment, and every possible Joins, Double/Triple combinations. Every additional analysis will have an overall impact on the final analysis.

However, if any one analysis is yet to be considered, the final analysis deduced will never be accurate. Thus, we find that it is a pitty that many calculation done are often lacking in many of detailed analysis in order to do a complete Pillars of Destiny Analysis.

Therefore, the environment earth strength has already being factored into the Ba Zi.

Warmest Regards,
Cecil Lee

On 5/8/2002 12:04:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
>1. Two bks read recently
>indicates the
>seasonal tables of earth as
>follows :
>Lillian Too's Chinese Wistom
>Pg 49 :
>"earth is regarded as being
>equally
>strong or weak throughout the
>year."
>Personalise your feng shui by
>Dr Evelyn
>Lip Pg 17 : "Earth = Strong
>throughout
> the season".
>
>In the free personal feng shui
>element
>report, mine is weak earth.
>Pls confirm.
>2. What's the difference in
>being a weak or
>strong element. Does if affect
>one's
>destiny, health, wealth,
>career, choice
> of house & etc.

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